Pascale Fahrni Interview
In this intimate conversation, Pascale Fahrni shares why many highly accomplished women reach a moment where success no longer feels complete. She explores the quiet inner call that invites them to move beyond performance and into truth, presence, and embodied leadership. Together with Carla Lippert, she explains how THE UPGRADE GAME® creates a space where women stop proving, reconnect with inner authority, and lead from alignment rather than pressure. This interview offers a powerful perspective on leadership that begins within and reshapes life from the inside out.
Carla Lippert & Pascale Fahrni
Carla Lippert is a guide for inner depth and embodied truth. Her work is rooted in deep listening, intuition, and emotional intelligence. She creates spaces of softness and trust where women reconnect with their inner knowing beyond strategy and control.
Pascale is an entrepreneur and space holder working at the intersection of leadership, presence, and inner clarity. With a background in entrepreneurship and mental coaching, she is known for her calm authority and her ability to hold spaces where truth can emerge without pressure or performance.
Together, they are the creators of THE UPGRADE GAME®, a movement for women who are ready to move from performance into truth and lead from embodied presence.
The Quiet Call beyond Success
We started the interview by asking, “Pascale, you work with women who have “achieved everything” yet feel an inner call for more. What is it that is truly calling them?”
Pascale Fahrni replied, “What is calling these women is not another milestone, title, or form of external validation.
It is truth.
Many of the women who enter our spaces are highly accomplished, intelligent, and influential. They have built lives that appear complete from the outside. And yet, at a certain point, something inside begins to feel quietly misaligned.
It is not a crisis.
It is a knowing.
A subtle, steady sense that the life they created, while successful, is no longer fully aligned with who they have become.
The call they feel is not for more achievement or optimisation. It is a call to stop performing and start listening. To move from constant doing into deeper being.
What they are longing for is presence. Inner authority. A way of living and leading that is no longer shaped by expectation, pressure, or external definitions of success.
When a woman truly hears this call, she knows the old game of proving herself is complete. What opens instead is a different kind of leadership — conscious, embodied, and deeply honest. One that begins on the inside and quietly reshapes everything on the outside.”
Why THE UPGRADE GAME® Is a Movement
The Worlds Times: THE UPGRADE GAME® is described as neither a method nor coaching, but a movement. What makes it fundamentally different?
Pascale Fahrni replied, “THE UPGRADE GAME® is fundamentally different because it was never designed to improve women. It is a living field, not a framework. A space that allows women to remember who they are, rather than become someone new. This work was co-created with Carla Lippert from a place of deep listening, not strategy. There was no intention to build a method or system. What emerged was a shared space one in which performance dissolves and control gently transforms into trust.
THE UPGRADE GAME® does not aim to fix, optimise, or push anyone forward. It invites women to soften, slow down, and return to presence.
There is no pressure to perform and no expectation to prove readiness. What unfolds is not taught, it is embodied.
Women do not come to learn something external. They come to reconnect with an inner truth that has always been there, but was often overshadowed by responsibility, success, and expectation.
This is why it is a movement.
Because what shifts in this space does not remain contained. It moves outward — into leadership, relationships, decisions, and the way women inhabit their lives.”
From Performing to Living in Truth
The Worlds Times: You often speak about moving from performance into truth. What does that transition look like in real life?
Pascale Fahrni replied, “Performance is exhausting — even when it works.
Many women have mastered it so thoroughly that they no longer notice the inner effort it requires. The constant pressure to deliver, to hold everything together, to meet expectations — often without pause.
Moving from performance into truth is rarely dramatic. It is a subtle, but powerful shift.
It begins when a woman allows herself to stop proving and start listening. Decisions may slow down at first, but they become clearer. Urgency gives way to certainty.
Her presence changes. She no longer leads from pressure or obligation, but from inner alignment. What once felt heavy becomes more precise. What felt noisy becomes calm. In daily life, this often shows up in tangible ways: clearer boundaries, more honest conversations, fewer compromises that drain energy. A woman becomes more selective — with her time, commitments, and attention. What emerges is a quiet authority that does not need to be loud or convincing.
Truth does not shout.
It resonates.”
Experience That Shaped How Space Is Held
The Worlds Times: How does your long journey as an entrepreneur and mental coach shape the way you hold space today?
Pascale Fahrni replied, “My journey through entrepreneurship and mental coaching shaped my work in a very quiet, but lasting way.
For many years, I worked closely with ambition, performance, and responsibility — supporting people in achieving goals, sharpening focus, and creating measurable success. That path taught me discipline, clarity, and precision.
Over time, however, something deeper became clear: success on its own does not create freedom. When success becomes disconnected from the self, it often creates more pressure instead of fulfilment.
This understanding changed the way I work.
Today, the spaces I hold are not created from my experience alone. Together with Carla Lippert, I work in a shared field where clarity and depth meet. Where my background in leadership and structure is held by Carla’s deep listening, intuition, and capacity to sense what is moving beneath the surface.
In this space, nothing is forced. Clarity is not pushed, it emerges. Women are not directed or fixed; they are met.
Our combined experience allows the space to remain grounded, precise, and deeply human — without control, without performance.
That is what shapes the way I hold space today: anchored in experience, softened by depth, and guided by truth.”
Presence as the Core of Modern Leadership
The Worlds Times: You emphasize presence as the foundation of true leadership. Why is presence so essential today?
Pascale Fahrni replied, “Presence has become essential because the world itself has become increasingly fast, loud, and reactive.
We live in a time of constant acceleration, optimisation, and information overload. In such an environment, leadership driven by pressure or fear quickly loses stability.
Presence changes that.
A present leader does not react automatically. She responds consciously. She pauses, senses what is actually happening, and chooses her actions from inner stability rather than urgency.
Presence allows a woman to feel what is true, recognise what is needed in the moment, and act with integrity — even in uncertainty.
This creates trust without explanation. People feel it in conversations, decisions, and in the way responsibility is held. Teams respond differently. Organisations become calmer and more focused.
Without presence, leadership turns into performance.
With presence, leadership becomes embodied.”
Coming Home to Inner Clarity
The Worlds Times: What transformation do women experience when they step into THE UPGRADE GAME®?
Pascale Fahrni replied, “The most profound transformation is not immediately visible — but it is deeply felt.
Many women describe it as a sense of coming home to themselves. Inner tension softens. The constant pressure to manage and perform eases.
Decisions become simpler, not because life becomes easier, but because inner clarity returns. Success regains meaning, no longer driven by comparison or proving.
Women stop chasing outcomes and begin moving from grounded trust. Control loosens its grip, and a quieter confidence takes its place. One of the most important realisations is this: nothing new needs to be added. There is no reinvention required.
What happens instead is a release of what was never truly theirs — roles, expectations, and patterns that are no longer aligned.
From this place, leadership becomes natural, relationships more honest, and life more spacious.”
An Invitation to Listen Within
Lastly we asked, “For a woman who feels this call but hesitates, what would you say to her?”
“I would say: pause — and listen.
Not to fear, and not to the constant movement of the mind, but to the quiet knowing that is already present.
If something in you resonates with these words, the call has already begun. It does not need to be loud or urgent. Often, it is subtle. Steady. Honest.
You do not need to fully understand it. And you do not need to feel ready.
What matters is the willingness to be truthful with yourself — without forcing clarity, without rushing the next step.
This path does not ask for perfection.
It invites presence.
And it asks for honesty.
The beginning is never outside.
It always starts within.” Pascale Fahrni concluded
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